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This is Pass or 1S bid IMO, with my preference for pass (just). It's way too good for a W2 bid, which will result in missed games too often. Opened a similar hand just the other night 1C. KQJT9 x x QJ9xxx
Jan. 19
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I keep 1st and 2nd seat pre-empts of a quality of suit that helps in finding 3NT if P is strong. Otherwise all bets are off in other positions. Favourable vul can increase the variability of the bids of course too
Jan. 18
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Well if your going to place any merit on how many agree with something…..perhaps you need a disagree button too, to gauge how many think differently!
Jan. 17
ATB
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I have chosen East should dbl, but this is very marginal IMO and I could not crime passing. I posted a very similar hand to this very recently where we suffered the same way. Life can be cruel
Jan. 17
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I think your confusing something here. I have not advocated bidding 4D anywhere here. I suggested I might bid 4H next over a 4D bid by P. Ie (3D)3S 4C 4D 4H. Or 4NT after (3D) 3S 4C 4S
Jan. 11
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Well thats the big question. Not had this auction at the table with my reg, but would expect P to be on the right lines - hopefully
Jan. 9
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I firmly believe 4C here would be forcing with my reg and choose that for now. P may bid 4D allowing 4H next. My concerns are missing slam when partner passes either 4M bid. 4S by P over 4C and I will RKCB for spades.
Jan. 9
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Very likely, but not a sure thing. If we pass and P competes with a dbl we can bid 3D, or maybe they can now offer a 6+ card club suit.
Jan. 5
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Now seen the 2nd thread which is clearly to see how much difference P being a passed hand makes. Not much I would imagine
Jan. 3
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Abstain as I believe I have seen this hand previously, though I thought P was a passed hand already
Jan. 3
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I have chosen other, as there is no information on the 2D bid. If this is unchanged and GF the answer here is obvious, if it's not, then 4D is surely only forcing if you have agreed it to be.

I can see good arguments for both forcing and nf, so pays your money and pick an option. Personally I think nf makes most sense overall
Jan. 2
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Nothin in the OP, but is 3D via 2nt weaker, so that 3D direct is somewhat encouraging?
Dec. 29, 2017
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So how do you bid a hand like x AKJTx AKQx Kxx after a start of 1H 1S Steve, if as you say 3D now shows much longer and stronger diamonds than hearts? Not how I play for sue. I like to open my longest suit if at all possible
Dec. 23, 2017
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Thanks for the comments so far. After further reflection on frequency grounds the self splinter looks the clear favourite for the bid. With the 4450 type hands I would GF with 3C and see what P bids.

Not a common bid by any means
Dec. 22, 2017
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Lol
Dec. 22, 2017
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Unfortunately given to me as a problem it was based in a simple Acol framework, so virtually all heart based rebids would be NF!…..that makes this hand much harder.
Dec. 21, 2017
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Agreed, this is a possible option for the bid, but then I think with the hand given we can live with that interpretation.
Dec. 21, 2017
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I did consider these shapes but felt these would likely bid 3C….but of course this is why I am posting it here.
Dec. 21, 2017
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How can 4C not be a control bid in this auction, after all they had bid 2NT earlier to show values in clubs already, so this does not compute…….so 4C is a control bid and 4D next by south should be Last train with some slam ambition.

Having bid 4H over 4C, North has absolutely no right what so ever to go beyond game. They only just have the values for their bidding thus far, let alone extra's
Dec. 18, 2017
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Depending on the cue style, that hand is not possible after opener cues 4D
Dec. 17, 2017
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