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The OP says that 1N has a minimum of ZERO. All who agree with 3 must think that part was a lie and that really responder should just sit there and let that take-out double get converted to penalties when we have a 9 card club fit and 5 card spade fit. Not a thing wrong with North's 1N, given the methods. Could he have passed 3 on the assumption that partner was unprepared for a runout to clubs with the long-clubs, bad-hand part of the description of 1N? I suppose. But, IMO, this auction went off the rails with the 3 bid but only got REALLY crazy with the barking-mad 4 bid that suggests this was South's first time playing these methods over the take-out double. Up to 4, it is possible for this auction to have been right; at that point, all routes would lead to a telephone number.
Oct. 24
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Paul: 1-1M,3 is GF 5-5. We started this structure playing the old KS 3 bid that showed 5-5 and weaker than rebidding 2 then 3. But, now we can rebid 1N with that weak hand (although it usually involves the opponents mixing in). When the 3 rebid was weak, then to show a GF 5-5 we had to (gasp) open 1 and rebid diamonds twice (right, like modern opponents will permit that!)
Oct. 22
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1 and 3 rebid seems most common for most pairs and what I would pick if 2 rebid isn't forcing. I prefer to play 2 then 3 shows 10+ playing tricks.

We play that 1-1M, 2 is forcing and normally very strong. Responder almost always bids 2 to let opener clarify his hand by bidding (1) 2OM, with 17+ HCP, and 5-6 diamonds, 4 clubs and 3 of OM or (2) 2M with a good 3-card raise of M (not forcing but showing about 14-16 HCP) or (3) 3 with 5-5 or better in minors and about 14-16 HCP (not forcing) or (4) 2N with 2-2-5-4 and about 17-18 HCP or (5) 3 to show a GF one-suiter in diamonds (the choice on the hand given) or (6) 3M (GF 3-card raise, usually 17+ HCP). Over rebids of 2M or 2OM, lebensohl is on. Responder can break the relay to try to stop in 2M over 2 and theoretically could use lebensohl directly over 2, but it is seldom a better idea than just bidding 2 as opener expects. Because our 1 opening bid is always a distributional hand, we can rebid 1N with the minors and less than enough for one of the above, or 1N over 1 with 4-5 in the reds and less than reverse values.
Oct. 22
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When our two suits are hearts and diamonds, I prefer to play that 4 is RKC for diamonds and 4N RKC for hearts. This comes up in many contexts, usually after one person has shown a specific two-suiter in the reds and the other has to pick one in a crowded auction. But, without such an agreement, if your partnership wouldn't play 4N as natural, I think that an old addage applies: “when the kibitzers don't know what trumps are, the last bid suit is trumps” (here diamonds).
Oct. 21
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And I am disappointed that half think it's okay to coffee house.
Oct. 21
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Is this all that different than looking RHO in the eye and asking, “Do YOU have the king?” A good poker player (which I surely am not) would then be very likely to read the answer in RHO's (or LHO's) body language (including the middle finger salute the question invites).
Oct. 20
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Terminology is an issue here, as is whether we are required to give bridge lessons. Leading from either honor is “active;” leading from the jack is an indication your other possible leads must have been horrendous (see the Mathe quote above). No partnership is required to have firm agreements about leading style other than what is on the card. Sometimes one partner is different than another in the same partnership. Sometimes they argue well into the night about it after the game. Sometimes they vary from hand to hand. I don't think you have to express an opinion mid-hand on this topic. Before the hand? Sure. Then we would know to vary from the description given. This declarer needs to “cowboy up” and get on with playing the hand. This is a form of coffee housing, trying to learn something from the answer, phrasing of the answer and my demeanor (what would intense anger suggest?) in giving a response or refusing to do so. Director! Please cite me the rule that permits this question mid-hand? We'll be here a long time before I give any other answer. May I have a recorder form to report coffee housing? Thank you.
Oct. 20
ATB
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I can't read anything after 3.
Oct. 19
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Single jump cues are needed to ask for a stopper. Other single jumps are needed as preempts.
Oct. 18
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I usually treat 7-5 as a one-suiter because I'd rather play in a 7-1 than a 5-3.

But, like you, we also play the method over 2M and 3M. I first heard of these bids as part of Leaping Michaels over 2M (although I think, I, like many others, did the 4M part just as a logical extension of it). I just noticed that it was a way to overcome not playing Guessing Michaels. We complete the two-suit leaps with a leap to 4m over 1m openers as showing 5+ of om and 5+ of the corresponding M (4 = hearts and om and 4 = spades and om). These can be nasty hands to bid.
Oct. 18
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Martin: Sorry, my second sentence is absolutely unclear. I agree with you. 5 can be the king ask when clubs are trumps, and 5 can be the king ask even if playing minorwood is what I meant to say. I don't think a king ask ever needs to be lower than the trump suit.
Oct. 18
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Brian: Spades and a minor suffers from the usual (and often terminal) “Guessing Michaels” defect. We play 4m over their 1M as Leaping Michaels (5+ of m, 5+ of OM, forcing if vul, almost forcing if nonvul or always forcing if also play 2M as Guessing Michaels) and use 1M-2M as ASTRO (5+ clubs, 4 of M, opening values or better), or with pards who don't like that, 2M can be Guessing Michaels, with not enough playing tricks to bid 4m instead.
Oct. 18
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Minors, unequal length (6-5 or 7-6). 4N is minors, equal length (6-6 or, rarely, 5-5). These are extreme hands where you want to avoid letting the opponents participate easily over a 2N bid for which they are prepared. This lets partner ask for the longer minor by bidding 4N/5N or bid 5m/6m with a preference for that minor even if the shorter one.
Oct. 18
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I prefer not to play Minorwood, but rather play Kickback or Redwood. Then the kickback suit (5m+1) asks for kings; 4N is to play if diamonds are trumps (with 5 the queen ask) but 4N should ask for the queen if clubs are trumps and 5 would have to be the king ask in that case. Minorwood is right up there with Stolen Doubles and Drury as my least favorite conventions.
Oct. 16
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Another problem caused by a “Tom” bid (Two other minor). The lesson here is to be the one bidding 2 over their 1 opener or 2 over their 1 opener as often as possible. We do that, alert the Tom bids and say that they are natural but very undisciplined, might be weaker than expected and might have major suit length (of up to 5 spades in the case of the 2 bid). In my weak NT partnership, we play transfers over their Tom bids. That gets us back to about even but I have come up with no way to get back to even playing a strong NT. Tried negative free bids, considered transfers, and came down to just making looser negative doubles and being more willing to leave those doubles in (like here).
Oct. 16
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In my weak NT methods, I'd start with 2, size-ask or clubs, weak or strong. Over partner's answer (2N w a min, 3 w a max), I would bid 3 showing 5+ clubs and exactly 4 diamonds (5-5's would start with 2N instead of 2) and forcing to game. I don't know what pard's hand is, but I would be pretty far along the track of describing this one. Partner (at least at imps) should raise one of the minors with four card support and should bid 3M to show concern about OM for 3N and should bid 3N with both majors well stopped. If we miss a minor suit slam after that start, we won't be the only ones missing it. We don't have a power-based slam; we may well have a fit-and-control-based slam, but we need pard to have a four-card minor for that.
Oct. 14
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Kit made the best argument against 3 in the article: “Also, you may lose any chance to bid RKC for clubs…” 4 kickback right now can make this an easy auction to a grand. 3 now can turn this into fodder for a myriad of subsequent bidding polls. Nothing is ever “free” – and the cost of 3 here to our slam exploration seems far too steep to me to risk it.
Oct. 13
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Bid 3.
Oct. 13
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I would bid 3 if the bid was 2.
Oct. 12
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MIke: I think my partner has bid a 3-card major a couple of times and I have done it once in the 5 years or so we have been playing Meckwell Lite. I don't think that requires any disclosure – partner is going to be a lot more surprised than the opponents when it happens. Rounded to the nearest 1/10th of 1%, we do it 0% of the time. Support doubles would have to be of a bid lower ranking than 2. If that bid is 1 or 1N or redouble, we can bid 2; if that bid is 2, we can pass the support double. In my KS partnership, we do alert our 1 response to (a 2+) 1 and explain that it shows 3+ diamonds. That is less risky though, because diamonds isn't one of those suits that excites partner when he has a fit.
Oct. 12
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