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All comments by Phil Clayton
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Max that is a fair question.

Even though its anti-systemic, Id rebid 1. If partner passed we are in a good spot. If partner bid 2 Id hate it but thats only one bad continuation out of many.
Feb. 9
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Ray, for many of us (including me), the main driver of not to open 1N is because we have both four card majors not because we have 17. I have made this call on a 4432 16 planning to jump raise the major too.

I have not opened on a 4432 15 before, but it's not a crazy idea at matchpoints and raise 1M to 2.
Feb. 9
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1, 2 looks like a normal start.

If partner rebids 2N, then 3 completes the message.
Feb. 9
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Considering the auction is about to be wrapped up after our next call, I think it's pretty obvious why you would suddenly take an interest in the bidding.

Especially when partner is looking at likely diamond length.
Feb. 9
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Slight preference to open a very old fashioned 1 - I think I saw it in a Reese book once.

Honestly the tipping point might who has more energy to play the dummy.
Feb. 8
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#tooriskytopass
Feb. 7
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The comments are not consistent with the voting.
Feb. 6
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Wrote an article in January's Bridge World about this. It focuses on:

Finding a side 44 fit or a 55 major fit.
Locating shortness
NOT disclosing irrelevant features of opener's hand.
Feb. 6
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Quite possibly the worst resulting Ive ever seen on BW.

Double is obvious.
Passing is obvious.

This is a non problem.
Feb. 6
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If the K holds, Id play KJ, overtake and lead a spade. There may be better continuations but this combines safety and chances for 11.
Feb. 5
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I don’t agree. Not only is an early high spade the best shot to make an over, its the best play to guarantee 10, which ruffing a diamond endangers.
Feb. 5
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Right, this occurred to me. Seems like this is a classic fix hand - they pass only to find responder with 12 points and 5 and score up a cozy 110.
Feb. 4
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I hate to distort on the first round of the bidding.

Gladly would open 1 in 3rd.
Feb. 3
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And when they reach spades, we might as well put our hands on the table.
Feb. 3
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This 11 is much better than most flat 12's. Not 4333, all points concentrated in two suits and two aces.
Feb. 3
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2N is awful. Partner needs to upgrade their game.
Feb. 3
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Andy you are right, but the attitude isn't really necessary.
Feb. 3
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Thanks all.


The poll answers indicate that the delayed 4 is simply stronger than a direct 4.

If Opener were to have pulled 3N to 4, I presume that there isn't any question that opener has a spade control? Since it's 4, and there is no guarantee that Opener was getting a free shot to bid 4 and may have to complete the message with 5.

After reading this, I am more of the opinion that a direct 4 implies better and longer clubs and the delayed 4 implies at least some flexibility between the minors. The hand isn't a balanced 3235; that hand just raises to 4N. 1336 seems more apt, although those patterns might just not horse around and raise diamonds.

On a bike ride, my riding partner thought the direct 4 was probably just a bad bid unless the hand has a weak hand and a pile of clubs that wasn't sitting for 3N. On retrospect he thought since 3 initially could just be a weak NT, that it doesn't initially imply any strength at all, so a pull to 4 should be reserved for many strong single suited club hands.

Since ‘flexible’ hands are hard to construct, Mike's idea that 4 is a diamond cue makes a lot of sense to me.
Feb. 3
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Kit, so other than a mile of clubs (we didn't rebid 3 or raise diamonds), what kind of shape are we implying?
Feb. 3
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Right, 2N shows close to the equivalent of a strong club opening.
Feb. 2
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