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Depends on opening standards.

In my partnerships this would not be enough to game force.
May 13
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I really wanted to lead the J. But just could not pull the trigger, but it seems like a reasonable shot.

Sure enough, Qxx flopped in dummy……
May 12
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This is exactly the kind of hand that should be bidding 3N.

Sometimes the diamond hook works, you know :)
May 12
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With hearts 30, RHO can ruff the 4th diamond.
May 12
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Yes.
May 11
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I've given this hand some thought today. There are two main lines I can see:

1. Diamond establishment. K-A, AK (), diamond ruff. If RHO is 4=5=2=2, he can spoil the party by ditching a club here. But assume he's not. I ruff, ruff reducing to:

A9
2
xx



QTx


KT

Play a winning diamond. If ruffed, overruff, to A and last diamond. If ruffed, overruff (that's the last trump). The last two tricks are K and 9. RHO cannot thwart this effort by discarding either.

Aside from diamonds 3-2 (or RHO having 4 - unlikely since that gives LHO 12 round cards), I need RHO to hold a minimum of 3 and 2 or 2 and 3.

2. Squeeze. ruff, draw trump discarding two diamonds reducing to:


AK2
A9x



x
x
KT8
T

Assume RHO followed to the 3rd club. On the surface, I have a squeeze on LHO if he started with at least seven hearts and or any hand with at least three diamonds, so the only problem shape is exactly 0=6=Hx=5. In the six card ending, LHO needs to keep 0=3=2=1. On the final trump, He can't give up a club, and a diamond exposes partner to a finesse, so he ditches a heart and now RHO feels the pain in the red suits.

If RHO shows on the 3rd club, I have a similar problem above with LHO being 0=5=2=6.

The only way the squeeze loses is if LHO has 0=6=2=5 with a small doubleton of diamonds, so a squeeze is clearly best and makes me practically cold unless clubs are 7-1.

The challenge with the squeeze is I need some mad card reading skills. For instance, if LHO plays a diamond honor, did he pitch a diamond early from 0=5=3=5 or was he actually guard squeezed with 0=6=2=5?

I also don't know if I can resolve the 0=7=2=4 hand and may discard wrong from dummy on the last spade.

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Other lines like crossruffs and coups seem substantially worse and rely on 3-2 diamonds which cannot make them better than either of these lines.

So, even if the squeeze is right on paper, I might not get it right at the table. If I'm gassed, I might just play for the simpler Line 1 too.
May 10
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Edited - cross posted with others.
May 10
Phil Clayton edited this comment May 10
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I will do the following:

- downgrade for no aces
- downgrade for 4333 especially when the 4 looks like xxxx
- downgrade for doubleton honors like KJ.

- upgrade for a good five card suit
- upgrade for two aces or two tens

Rarely will I move more than one point in either direction. For instance a 13 is never a 15 and a 16 is never a 14, although I've made a 16 an 18 before.
May 9
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Keith if thats the case, I will edit my post.
May 9
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My reading of the Basic+ chart is the 1 opening does not appear to be legal. Not a huge loss for a tournament player.
May 8
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Eugene, this thread started as a noble stance that a few pairs plan on taking in Istanbul.

Instead a lot of the length of this thread is due to attacking and defending the consistency of their positions. While its (arguably) a legitimate subthread it is dominating the discussion and thats unfortunate.

Instead of warnings, I would kindly suggest splitting the thread into something separate where both can continue.
May 8
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I dont find it weird that a team didnt want to oppose them.

Edited per Keith Wells' reply below.
May 8
Phil Clayton edited this comment May 9
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There is a nice summary of Meckwell Lite in Forums/bridgebase.com (sorry dont have the link but I searched for it once and it came right up).

Not only is it a great structure but its commonly played and you can use it with others like you can 2/1.
May 8
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Unfortunately a lot of the ‘fertilizer’ in this thread doesn't seem to help the garden grow either.
May 8
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The Nassar case wont be heard by the supreme court. But Im done discussing this.
May 7
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Hi Felix.

I guess I will take the bait. Largely because I seem to have more understanding about the issue about you.

LOL at showing this to the ‘right’ institutions. Over a 20 year period, coaches, trainers, school psychologists and the local police were told about this behavior.

Even when the “correct” institution (USA Gymnastics) was made aware, instead of turning it over to the police or the FBI, they conducted their own ‘internal’ investigation which took 51 days while these crimes continued.

There were eight separate reports starting in 1997 of this monster. He could have been stopped a number of times. You might find this educational:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/gymnastics-scandal-8-times-larry-nassar-could-have-been-stopped-n841091

…………………

Back to the issue at hand.

Of course, I don't want anyone to think I equate a child molester with cheating at bridge, any more than others are mentioning Gandhi or Rosa Parks in this thread.

But it's our game, and we want it cleaned up.
May 7
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Theres a 20 page .pdf sample that describes all the opening bids and responses.

https://ebooksbridge.com/www/ebb/samples/SAMPLE_HONORS_MOSSOBiddingSystem.pdf
May 7
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I also recall an appeal with a top american pair where the explanation was “3 suited” and the defense played for 4441 instead of the actual 5440.
May 7
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Dave, 6 means something completely different for us.
May 7
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“The smart move for the tournament officials is to simply rig the draw such that players who announce in advance that they will not play against player foo don't get seated against player foo”.

Which is why there needs to be enough protesters that you cant ‘hide’ a cheating pair.
May 6
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