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For some, interpretation and application of the rules takes on the same significance as the Talmud.

Golf also has an arcane set of rules as bridge, and many a pint has been consumed over their interpretation. Baseball as well.

I do not think this is a recent phenomena nor do I think it has much to do with the decline of bridge.
8 hours ago
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Didn't RHO outshow on the 3rd club?
Nov. 19
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Odd, I think 4 exhibits a lot of respect for partner.
Nov. 19
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A related question is this sequence:

1 1 pass pass
1 pass 2
Nov. 19
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True but he didn't misbid - he followed their agreements.
Nov. 18
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Exactly. Without screens, North would likely be correcting South's explanation of 3.
Nov. 18
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Definitely minors. Hands with 4 spades and a side minor tend to pass (and doubler's 1N is now pick).

Probably some better mousetraps out there.
Nov. 18
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Yuan - not a bad idea and I've played similar structures, but I'm not in favor of it.

Using 2N as a transfer to clubs caters to a unusual hand type where we are probably getting outbid anyway.

Worse - it's wrong siding the NT which can be fatal for our game bidding.

Much prefer 2N to be the 4 card raise like Martin. When we have a nine card fit, we aren't likely to play 3N, so this gives up nothing except for a natural 2N.
Nov. 18
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I think many of us on here wouldnt be playing for an extensive period with a partner that coffeehoused.
Nov. 17
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Why do you think these new players are being fleeced? Bridge is pretty cheap entertainment compared to dining out and it's more social than going to the movies. And it's a lot cheaper than warming a stool in front of a slot machine waiting to pass on. It's a great activity even if you have a fixed income.

I think there are newer players that accept that they will never be competitive at the high level and are happy with their LM and Bronze LM. And believe it or not, they enjoy the game just as much as a tournament player.
Nov. 17
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Jeff, I am not claiming that a board member represent anyone or anything in particular - not Nebraska, tournament players, club owners nor the WBF.

The board represents everyone and everything. It is on them to determine what is important and what isn't.

I do agree with Steve and Chris that the number needs to come down substantially. I strongly disagree that there needs to be any kind of geographic consideration, nor affiliation with any kind of interest groups.

I am suggesting that the board come from a variety of professional backgrounds to provide needed policy input.

These changes will allow the board to make quality decisions which we both agree on.
Nov. 17
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It's double dummy so you get to pick for the defense.
Nov. 17
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As I read this thread, I just assumed it was Pairs. I'm sort of sympathetic to North's double at nobody vul, but its still super aggro.

Then I noticed it was IMPs. Double is totally off the rails at teams with terrible ODR and a doubleton spade. Who cares if we have half the deck? Easy to see how we are defending 2 that hinges on the guess of a Jack to make, and we are getting carted out in 3 of something.

South should respect the double however and assume partner is not a lunatic. I would expect x Axxx xxxx Kxxx for the double. Maybe I am worth FOUR hearts?

North 80%, South 60%.
Nov. 17
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Great story. It's hard to make a play like this in the heat of battle.

The cherry would have been ducking the Ace, saying “nicely guessed, making 3” putting your cards back in the board and watching CHO's expression.
Nov. 17
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In my style, partner will rarely have three clubs.
Nov. 17
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Ray, maybe someone can explain to me how the discussed geographical structure helps to these ends? I see a zone that encompasses both DC and the rust belt. I see a zone that includes Chicago as well as Peg's area. If you want to try to create jurisdictions that can adequately serve a part-timer running a two-session a week game that get's six tables, as well as some of the mega-clubs in Florida, then the maps would need to be extremely gerrymandered to accommodate these ends.

We love geographical representation - it is part of the American political DNA. It is a romanticized idea about someone from our town representing our interests in Sacramento or Austin or Washington DC. Of course the reality is that the forces that elect people to state and federal offices suck well-meaning people into a party machine where their identity seldom matches the person that served on the local school board or city council.

Additionally, we resent centralized government. All of us that grew up in the cold war brag about the effectiveness of capitalism against the five year plan.

So I will concede the idea that certain policies affect different stakeholders of the ACBL. At the same time, I will argue that these turf wars are extremely minuscule in comparison to the broken governance structure that elects 25 under qualified directors that cannot govern.

We need people on the board that can adequately create and approve policy that is going to get the league out of a tailspin. Any discussion about what zone Montana belongs to is an utter waste of time.
Nov. 17
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Platitudes.
Nov. 16
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Do you not see that if a district is so geographically spread out that it makes it far more difficult for people to attend and compete for NAP or GNT if they must drive 5-9 hours to reach the playing site, rather than 30 minutes to 1.5 hours?

Yes, sure. But so what? I started my bridge in Montana, where it was not uncommon to drive six hours for a sectional. Later i lived in Orange County, where a sectional of more than an hour was too much of a headache to go to.

Or that masterpoint awards and attendance (for instance) can be vastly different if you live in Boca Raton rather than Minot, ND?

Yes, also true. As long as masterpoints for regionals are based on skill level (rightly in my view) instead of the simple fact that its a ‘regional’, it is likely that points earned in Bismarck will be a lot less than Boca, unless of course Meckwell, Berk, and the typical ‘traveling circus’ decide to frequent Nodak.

Peg, I'm really not trying to be snide or a smartass, but I have not seen any justification for geographically based districts here.

If you come up with some, I will certainly listen, but for now, I'm pretty convinced there is no need to keep legacy district alignments for representation.
Nov. 16
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Jan, if anything the lack of good resources in Horn Lake is an even more compelling reason to try to backfill domain knowledge on the BOD.

The new ED, or senior staff members may be great at some things but need help in others, and a skills-based BOD can help.
Nov. 16
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Bill, these are nice and valid sentiments.

Can you explain why you think they are remotely relevant to this vital discussion?
Nov. 16
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