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True, if I had clear agreement that 4 meant that.
Oct. 16
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I would have opened 1, but, that is irrelevant here. Amongst my peers, the general consensus is that if the partnership opens with a game force, the opponents may not play undoubled. ergo my Pass here is forcing, and acts thus as a takeout double.
Oct. 16
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3NT. 2 is a poor bid, for the collective reasons given above. If partner has values for 1NT and also has an unbid 4 card major, unless the stoppers are multi in number, X is a better start. This argues for the simple raise to game here.
Oct. 16
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If you raise hearts, your expert partner will not be displeased. if you raise to 2, and miss a non vul game partner will not be unhappy as being an expert will recognize your problem. If you jump raise, partner will not trust you on other hands where you ‘promise’ four card support.
Oct. 16
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The key to this auction is the meaning of 3. We are not told that, but if it is a quality raise of spades. I will Pass. If it is simply, ‘good hand’ I might X and I might live to regret that. Partner's 2 is starting to smell.
Oct. 16
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@Richard R,

I gave South 100% because the OP in a sub thread contended that the hand is far too weak to open 3 and made no assertion that the failure to open 2 occurred because of the side four bagger in spades. I believe that the Pass is poor strategy. it set the wrong tone and I find it hard to criticize North's actions in context. Had South averred that their approach was to not open with a pre-empt with a side four card major, I'd have just disagreed with their strategy, but in context, I'd have blamed North for not getting the gag about South's actions.
Oct. 16
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I'd back you to make the slam if you opened the South hand two or three hearts. E-W wouldn't bid, and if West led a spade, you'd get the spades and trumps right.
Oct. 16
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Thx Trevor, The delayed 3 is an interesting development presumably designed to scoop the pot with spade length. That has removed my opportunity to bid 3 myself, but has provided information that suggests a singleton spade in partner's hand. I am going to take the bait and bid game, 5. Slam is too remote, and the only control bid available to me, 4, won't galvanise partner.
Oct. 16
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There's one thing for sure. All those 4NT bidders are not going to go plus when partner has AQJ10xxx xxxx - xx Shame about the 6 on offer.

Surely a more sensible approach is to start with 3, treating your hand as primarily a club hand and if/when the oppo bid four of one major or the other, continue with 4NT. I recognize that the extra length in doesn't show, but without primary diamond support, this hand belongs in
Oct. 16
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What did 2 mean?
Oct. 16
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@David C, Could happen. Life goes on!
Oct. 16
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I know at least one many times international player who would have opened 4 with South's hand on a more or less simple view that 7-4 hands where the seven card suit is a major should be opened at game level. While I have always thought that a bit extreme, I wouldn't bother asking him what he thought of Pass because I know the answer would be ##$%%$###$$%^^&!!

Nonetheless, to not open this at all because of the spades on the side has long since passed into history. If the rationale for not opening is that the hand is not strong enough let me add ##$%^%$# to the list of comments.

Politely, I think Pass with the heart hand is losing strategy IMO. I give it 100% to South. Unless the partnership explicitly agrees not to pre-empt with a side four card major, how can North understand South's 4.

As far as the play goes, unless West leads a spade, the declarer does not rate to make more than eleven tricks.
Oct. 16
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Most modern hand evaluation methods count something for five card suits, usually starting with one for a suit better than one headed by one minor honour. Supported 10s also rate half a point. That, prima facie, makes this hand worth approximately 18.5, well clear of 15-17.

The truth is that many 15-17 bidders actually use a range of about 14-19. They just don't look at hands that way.
Oct. 16
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@Tom P,
Good to see confidence in an opinion expressed forthrightly, though I happen to have a different viewpoint. Passing 1X will leave the entire field to the opponents, who will have little difficulty in finding the right contract. By bidding at this low level, we bring partner back into the picture, and should we find a big fit there, partner's jump raise may just be the bid to kick the opponents off stride. The vulnerability protects our side very significantly here.

As to deflecting the opening lead, partner heard my opening bid, and my rebid not only gets that suit into the picture it confirms length in my first suit. Partner will not be dissuaded from a diamond lead unless it is right to do so.
Oct. 16
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Yes, We all getting old and conservative. Thirty years ago, I'd have opened this 3. Passing is gut wrenching, but conservatism has got at me a little, hence the mere 2 as an opening bid.
Oct. 16
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Gentlemen, We have a quorum.
Oct. 14
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@Rui, You can see what I bid without info of BIT and when the miscreants appear before me, that's precisely what I will hit them with unless they are quite inexperienced players and are able to convince me that they have no idea how continuations work after the first response to a RKC sequence.
Oct. 14
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Pass. Normally with this shape I would bounce along, but look at the opponents lack of bidding. That tells me that partner has a good hand and not many minor suit cards. The only danger is that the responder actually has a bunch of hearts and, after I Pass, opener balances with 3 and gets raised to four. that seems unlikely to me. I'll will risk it.
Oct. 14
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My double here is not specifically takeout. It is ‘cards’ and, as it happens I have a classical takeout shape and a four loser hand.

Partner, at this level, usually Passes to take a plus on the board. To bid here, partner needs a decent hand and a long suit. All partner needs for six spades to have a reasonable play is a weak two in spades and a couple of small diamonds for ruffs in my hand. Any stray extra like Q or J will lock it up.

I bid 6, expecting it to be at least reasonable, no guarantees.
Oct. 14
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4NT I am going to risk the five level. It is hard to get partners who hold aceless hands to get enthusiastic about slam chances
Oct. 14
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