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ATB
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Marty, I never said 3 should be default. But we agree there has to be a default, even if it is rare. If you think 3 is best default, that is fine. If I have to choose between 2NT w/o stopper and 3 with 3, I would choose 3. However, as I commented previously, if the overcall was 2, then I would be concerned about 3 promising 3 only. I don't know what the solution is, but we need to recognize some hands are problematic.

This situation actually happened at a club game some weeks ago. Opener bid 3 with 3, and his partner bid 5, and it was a 4-3 fit. Obviously, this pair did not recognize/agree the need of a default bid and what it should be.
4 hours ago
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Are you sure you are not confusing this with raising 1 opening to 2 with 4 ?
7 hours ago
ATB
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2345 is a stopper? :-)
8 hours ago
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Craig, By assumption, both sides have found fit. The criteria you list are about whether you should let them play or you should play. The relative strengths tell whether it is your hand or their hand, which as I said, does not mean you will make and they will go down. Bidding is not perfect. If you know you can't set their 3 in spite of 25 points to their 15, but if you bid 3, you will go down 2 red, of course you will pass. But if you don't even know if your side has 25 or 15, how can you make any judgement,

My earlier comment already mentioned factor like double fit etc and implicitly LoTT.
23 hours ago
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Ellis, so if they spread the cost by passing the CC fees to everyone, you complain. But if they don't, like in screen tax, 6 people team etc, you complain. So which is it?
Feb. 23
ATB
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Unless 3 over 2 is played as natural and invitational, I do play 3 over 3 as NF if 3 is. It is just one of those awkward hands. Sometimes your survive, somethings you don't.
Feb. 23
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BOP is the starting point in the evaluation. Of course the more the point discrepancy, the more solid is the starting point. Your comment about 7 affect more the decision as to whether to sit the double than whether to double. In a comment above, I discussed how N should look at their side's defensive capability and offensive capability to make the decision NOT to sit the double.

If NS does not have the BOP, should they compete over 3 with an 8 card trump fit? Even if 4 is right in that it will be down 1, how can they know they aren't pushing opponents into 4 making?
Feb. 23
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Len, balance of points. Say you have 23, are you going to let opponents play undoubled with their 17? Of course, there are times when they can make and your side can't at the level in question, so it is a primary stage decision, with higher stage adjustments.
Feb. 23
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This is MP. Partner's 4 has taken the space from investigation abut fitting values. Slam will be a stretch. You have as good as chance of getting a good score playing 4 as getting to a thin slam.
Feb. 22
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Really 4 is a t ridiculous bid. If N decides her hand is GF, not that she should, she should bid 4. So 4, given no 3, 4 or 4 implies a 18-19 balanced hand with support, A 4 bid, even wrong, would have stopped S from anything but bidding 4. But that is accidental. Now we come to S. why would you look for slam opposite a balanced 18-19 hadn't with 4 ?
Feb. 22
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If S did not hold the J, the auction ends with 3 period. The question is what S should do knowing their side has BOP.
Feb. 22
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Isn't it one crazy letter since it is the same letter?
Feb. 22
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It has nothing to do with Precision. Many of us will open 2 with KT9xxx and out white against red. so for full disclosure, we need to out 3 - ? The Precision part only affects what is at the higher end, not the lower end (except for not exceeding 9 point range). I think many of your players who put down 5 -11, 4-10 or whatever actually do open with less than that white vs red. I think they should change it to 3- or 2-.
Feb. 22
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Len, that is why you need a BOP X.
Feb. 22
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Len, I understand, That is why some of us put 3- 11, 2-10 whatever, while you put 5-11. It is against the rule to have a range of > 9, so we can't play 2 - 11.
Feb. 22
ATB
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MR, thanks. Understanding what is the default bid is important in partnership. Using 3 as default here may be best, but if 2 was the overcall, then 3 default does not appeal (neither does anything else).

At the club, so many don't understand default, it is scary any time you make a bid that does not show 4 in a new suit bid, an extra card in an old suit bid etc.
Feb. 22
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You don't assume partner opens with 10 points. BOP assumes partner opens with what is the normal minimum. If partner opens with weaker, it is because of playing strength and she will not sit the double, which is fine.
Feb. 22
ATB
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I can't comment if 2NT is punt. That is not I way I know or how I know people play.
Feb. 22
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Forcing to what? 3 is GF. So the only bid is 3. Is partner never allowed to raise ? He has to bid a clumsy 3? OK, let's say the overcall is 2, now what is responder to do over a 3 bid that does not promise 4.

The thing is the partnership has to agree what is the default bid over 2. Is it rebidding the M? Is it bidding the om?
Feb. 22
ATB
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Craig, how is N sure that S has 6 ? What is the default bid if S has 2=5=3=3 with no stopper?
Feb. 22
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