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Thanks. Senior is a ways off - I view it as a 15 year training process to get read for senior trials - and I am far from fast right now but maybe I should try it (although I think it was at the end so it conflicted with the Swiss). Yes, spring is good… it's the one without life master events!
June 2, 2016
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Joanne I should say congrats to you and your team and sorry for hijacking this comment! You have inspired me in the truest sense.
June 1, 2016
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Yes, I am aware that they start as a round robin. While that might be a better experience for me, I worry that I might influence the results of the round robin; a team that got flat boards in their match against us would be materially disadvantaged. Since the goal of the event is selecting teams to represent the US I don't feel good about disrupting it. More practically, I worry that other teams would resent a team that had no chance potentially disrupting the results.

On a related note I felt awful qualifying for day two of Blue Ribbons with Sontag and Berkowitz 157th, but thankfully they got in on a scoring correction so I am not sure who wound up just below the line and thus don't need to feel guilty about it.. but every time my mistake fixed an opponent I felt badly, what if that was the difference between them qualifying and not?

The women's trial format spared the OSMO team that issue and I think realistically I would be further from the field than they were.
June 1, 2016
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I am a big believer in playing up (national Swisses on a team with 3 non-life-masters, any national pairs event they will let me enter) but have not yet tried the Vanderbilt/Spingold/Reisinger/team trials. I do have some hesitation about screwing up the event for the teams that have a chance but that's really only an issue for the Reisinger, all we would do in a knockout is create a bye for one of the strong teams.

Congrats. Maybe I'll see you at the open trials?
June 1, 2016
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I do think the heart lead stands out, if they bid to slam the chance of a club cashing feels pretty low, and it is very possible the diamonds run for heart pitches. Good chance I can get in with the SK unless they have 12 spades so I may need to set up a heart trick for partner ASAP.

If somehow I bid to 7C (unlikely because I think pard will double 6S) I am not at all confident I would find the squeeze at the table. It is infinitely easier to find it in the car while driving home away from the pressure. I do think that ruffing a heart high before drawing trump looks pretty darned attractive in 7 even if it risks down 2 so I'd expect to make but on a boring line. Not even clear the the squeeze is the better line in 7, both seem very likely to make.

By the way I think the hope of leading a low club is very slim. It works only when pard has Q and the other two are splitting 11, or if pard has a void with a trump and the others are 21, or pard is void and can overruff dummy. The greatest number of layouts are those with pard void, but them having 3 clubs seems a lot to ask for on the bidding. Anyway if pard has a trump they will probably finesse into my spade K so on most of those layouts I am beating them by cashing a club and continuing clubs and hoping to eventually score my trump. Even if I think pard doesn't have a red suit trick I still don't think I want to play a low club, really that would be mostly playing for pard to have the stiff Q and the other clubs breaking 11 with opponents holding 12 trumps.
June 1, 2016
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Jurijs,
This won't be uncontested. Say it goes on
P (1S) 2D (3D)
4D (4S) 5C (P)
5D (5S) 6C (P)
Pard will for sure go back to 6D, thinking maybe you are an extreme 2 suiter. Now after
6D (X) 7C (P) you are already in trouble.
But now your partner has maybe 5 diamonds and 1 club, 7 diamonds seems clear on that bidding, maybe you are
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KQxxxxx
KQxxxx

For example, makes more sense than mixing up a simple overcall.
June 1, 2016
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Well if I had both and passed out with my cards scattered on the table I think the director would still have given me the 12 tricks I got.
May 31, 2016
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Yeah a drink to calm down was definitely in order after that auction. It would have been so much more fun to tell my partner that I'd made an overtrick and beered on a double squeeze than to just have made!
May 31, 2016
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Where is the line between “used to seeing weird bidding sequences” and fielding pshyches or having an implicit agreement that a diamond bid may be on a bunch of clubs? Since you can expect pard to have on average about 1 club, unless the opponents have all 13 diamonds it is going to be very hard to convince pard to go with my second suit.
May 31, 2016
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If no spade fit I would only make the bid if I was willing to rebid 6D over 5S. But I'm guessing.
May 31, 2016
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I don't think they had a specific agreement but presumably to show shape and values and help E evaluate slam possibilities? For me it shows eiher a monster diamond hand or a spade fit.
May 31, 2016
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Hopefully if you haven't heard of a squeeze you will try for 33 hearts at least. Interestingly 7 declarers played in clubs and nobody made 7. Some of them might have gotten spade leads but I would be surprised if I was the only one to get a diamond, perhaps others also were so happy to make they stopped thinking.
May 31, 2016
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I appreciate that logic and agonized over both bids.

In the end I would up deciding that the two most important pieces of information for me were a: whether opponents would bid at the 5 level (no need to sacrifice in 6C if they didn't) and b: whether partner thought we could beat them at the 5 level.

I may have had a trick on defense (maybe they finesse the spade?), and I may not get to hear pards opinion on their chances in 5 if LHO passes but I felt like I would still get a lot of the info I needed by bidding 5C while making a decision to compete to the 6 level harder for them and possibly buying it cheaply.

Or maybe I just couldn't bear not making my 10 card suit trumps?
May 26, 2016
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Hand 1 given the hints one line is to play RHO for JT of spades, if I play a low spade from dummy and drive out the A then I can squeeze RHO in the majors. Don't love it but it has play. I think I have to cash the diamonds and unblock the spades before playing my last club, and I have to have AT of hearts left on the board and the 9 of spades and 2 of hearts in my hand. If RHO pitches a heart then my hearts will be good and of course if I see the last spade honor I can cash my 9. Single dummy I still make on a heart break and I am just giving myself an extra chance when RHO has the spade JT. The last time I saw a transfer squeeze at the table it didn't work for the opponent in my seat so he went down while I made on an easier lead.
May 26, 2016
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Thanks all - it was a perverse reading and I am glad the laws don't work that way!
May 26, 2016
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After this poll has been up a while and gotten some responses I will post a followup poll later in the same auction.
May 26, 2016
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@Michael,

Perverse thought but I also have UI that 3NT making will likely be rolled back. That strongly suggests staying out of 3NT to avoid giving opps a double shot. So while the failure to alert gives me UI that suggests not bidding 3NT, I also have UI in the other direction. When I take all the UI together I think that 3C seems a more favorable place to land, so perhaps I need to bid 3NT. If I am to follow this line I think I need to also suggest to the director that it should be rolled back if I make it?

I am left hoping that the field is in 3NT going down.
May 26, 2016
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What I should say is “what Michael said on the next thread down” (which appeared after I started working on this - and was articulated more clearly).
May 26, 2016
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My understanding is that pards unexpected alert is UI. For example if I am a passed hand and my partner bids 1S then I bid 2C and pard correctly alerts that as Drury and bids 2S. I am not allowed to be woken up by his 2S bid, I should proceed as though he is rebidding 2S over a natural 2C bid. Although his alert is correct and there is no MI to opponents the fact that he is acting under the impression that I have a spade fit (which I learned through his alert) is UI to me.

Similarly I think the knowledge that he really meant to pass a bid which is systemically defined as forcing is also UI.

I think a bid can be systemically defined as forcing and partner may still decide to pass. Of course if this happened frequently you would have to disclose it to opponents, but occasionally one of you might decide that even though through agreement is that a bid is forcing in this specific case it is better to pass. I am not saying I recommend that just that it can happen.

My comments were intended to apply to the case where 2C is defined as forcing and unlimited. In this case is is not likely that pard would actually consciously decide to pass; my comments were more intended to address the issue of how the UI from the failure to alert might interact with the AI from the pass of a forcing bid.
May 26, 2016
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Ok here is my take on the UI affecting the AI, disclaimer I am not a director and a relatively new player.

Imagine instead pard alerted the 2C bid and when asked explained it as a strong forcing club raise, then proceeded to pass. If opponents got in again and you have a marginal 3NT bid, it seems to me that you should bid it. In this case the UI points in the opposite direction to the AI so you should absolutely use the AI and act with great confidence that pard misunderstood.

Now reverse the alert and you are back at the current situation. In this case the UI reinforces the AI; to me this means if there is any possibility at all that pard deliberately passed your forcing bid you you should consider not acting on the AI of the pass because it is reinforced by the UI. With a partner where I thought the first situation was even a slim possibility I would feel barred from a 3NT bid that was not clear.

If in a partnership where it is categorically impossible that pard would knowingly pass your forcing bid then I think the AI is not affected by the UI and you can bid freely.
May 26, 2016
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