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My rule is that if we've bid a natural NT on the 2nd or later call, then all doubles are for penalty. Maybe not optimal, but at least I'll know what it means if this auction ever comes up.

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No, South had a very light 55 minors hand (-/xxx/AQJxx/JT9xx if I recall correctly) which overcalled 2NT at the other table and got NS to 5♣ making +640 (vs our -140 for defending 3♠), when the opponents didn't cash their two heart winners in time. In the postmortem, someone suggested North has a call over 3♠ and my thoughts were GTFO but I had to make sure.

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Presumably the reason for it is because you've opened some random 3154 hand 1♦ and partner responds 1♠ and it makes for a lot smoother bidding to just raise 2♠ than to go through 2♣ and try to recover (even worse with shapes like 3145 or 3451).

But once you realize Opener is making 3 card raises, Responder, who hates playing Moyseians (especially with 4 weak trumps), wants to know whether we have a 7 or an 8 card fit. Or maybe Responder has 5 trumps and is interested in a ruffing slam so needs to know if the fit is 8 or 9 cards.

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But once you realize Opener is making 3 card raises, Responder, who hates playing Moyseians (especially with 4 weak trumps), wants to know whether we have a 7 or an 8 card fit. Or maybe Responder has 5 trumps and is interested in a ruffing slam so needs to know if the fit is 8 or 9 cards.

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