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Forgot about this.
26 minutes ago
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I think ACBL might be able to get word out. We could also make some announcement at the reception for club officials and teachers on Friday afternoon.
28 minutes ago
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There are so many types of clubs in so many different areas.Much as I hate the term “fact finding”, I think our first get togethers would be just that. What is it that clubs want or think they need.
2 hours ago
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I suggest we form some sort of association, if only to start a dialogue among clubs. The one time we met as a group of about half a dozen clubs from a few different parts of the country, we found ourselves all over the map on specifics.
I will ask ACBL for a room and a time in Las Vegas where club representatives can meet to discuss forming a club association.
3 hours ago
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You think the exclamation point was over the top?
4 hours ago
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Chicken and egg question isn't it?
6 hours ago
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Touche
11 hours ago
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We moved the needle!
11 hours ago
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Clubs teach, those who do, because they hope to create new players FOR THEMSELVES. The money is not in the teaching. Too labor intensive. The money is in the card fees generated from their student graduating to player. No incentives needed so far.
Now comes the “bad” parts. Maybe one student out of ten make it to our duplicate games. Then we have them playing club bridge for a year or so. Then they go off to play in tournaments.
Why do most clubs not teach? Precisely because their return on investment is so limited. Teach ten, get one, for maybe a year. Too tough. Don't think so? Ask small club owners from all over the country. If you can still find them.
Jeff, you are dead set against giving clubs their due. Why? You have no plan to make make clubs great again. Altruism? Get real. No, an income stream, of some sort, is the answer for most small clubs, most independent teachers. What is wrong with this idea? The details? Let's worry about them after we come to some consensus on the need to create incentives for the clubs, for the independent teachers, and maybe even for those who simply bring prospects to our doors.
13 hours ago
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No Mike, we need to get our message out. This is a good way. Believe me, what you post here does get read by ACBL management. I hear from them when they are not happy with what I write.

On an entirely different topic. Don't you think it is time to form a club association?
17 hours ago
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“Conflicts of interest”. Run with that Don. Stay focused. There should not be “conflicts of interest”. That's our point. Why is that so hard for non club going players to understand?
After Mike and I are gone, who will be there to take our place?
Unless we, ACBL, find ways to make owning a bridge club very attractive, this will be the last generation of clubs. Don, outside of retirement areas, go back ten years and find me one new major bridge center that's come into being. ONE.
If that doesn't tell you what's rotten at our core, what will it take to wake you and 25 BoD members up? What?
You see Joe Grue opening a club? Meckstroff never did. Neither did Zia. You got one superstar owning a club and he's in England. And he's made sure that his club never joined his country's national organization.
I should not be sending the ACBL money. They should be paying us for every duplicate table played. They should be paying us whenever a player we created plays in a Sectional, Regional, or National event. Or don't you believe ACBL propaganda? How many times have I seen this statement in the Bulletin? “The clubs are the life blood of the organization.” Prove it. Start by giving us a transfusion.
Make American bridge clubs great again.
18 hours ago
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Ideally we (major bridge centers) should want to have our students be excited about playing at the “next level”. Instead we do as little as we can to encourage it. Not only that, we don't even encourage our players to begin playing duplicate bridge. Honors is very happy having close to 100 tables a week of social bridge. During Sectionals and Regionals in our immediate area, and twelve day Nationals three times a year, do you know how many social tables we have? Nearly a hundred!!
ACBL National, or ACBL local is in competition with its member clubs. This is not a formula for success. Never was. Won't ever be. Crazy how it is never addressed by the BoD. Well, maybe not so crazy, being that no one on the 25 member board owns a bridge center.
19 hours ago
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Why is this night different from all other nights?
Selecting the 50 members the same way we now select the 25 makes zero sense to me. Definition of insanity, this time doubled. It is just as important to have diversity on the 9 member board as on the 50 member board. Do we really need twice as many people as we have now reviewing the Master Point structure three times a year? How about some club representation requirement? How about some teacher requirement? You know, people who actually do the heavy lifting when it comes to creating new members. You won't get that by having Senators come up from the Unit ranks. That's how it's done now. What's that produced? 25 BoD members, maybe one or two who've actually ever run a club, none who've ever run a full time one, and maybe a part time teacher or two.
April 20
Jeff Bayone edited this comment April 21
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It's actually the Senate that worries me. Two from each District. Chosen how? If once again by Units and Districts then I'm afraid all you'll be doing is doubling the size of the BoD.
April 20
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We can try to see how at least one suggested change, and a major one at that, will work under this new restructuring. At San Francisco, have anything to do with Master Points and our National Tournaments be delegated to Richard Popper and our current BoG. Richard can organize committees to handle the various items up for discussion in both these areas, and I'm sure there will be many. Let the BoD handle all remaining business.

This could have the added effect of increasing BoG turnout since it might give our 125 member body some tangible reason for flying out to the West coast. This might lead to more room rentals. And, since Richard and the rest of us on the BoG don't even get coffee and a donut anymore, the incremental costs of having a more engaged and productive BoG should be insignificant.
April 20
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We call this a good start.
April 19
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If that's true, what a wonderfully compelling message this will send. After all, doesn't this strike at the heart of all our decision making? It is risk versus reward, with higher stakes than anyone has ever played for before. It is IMP scoring, a short match, and you and your partner are Red on White.
“Do you feel lucky, punk?”
April 19
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Very true. Still, I challenge anyone to present me with a book that teaches thinking. Watson, Root, Kaplan, all are great books on technique. There are hundreds of lesser known great books on technique. None teach pure abstract thinking. To paraphrase someone above, I know how I'm thinking, I just can't put it in words.
Anyone out there want to offer a suggestion? If you have the answer, Honors has a permanent couple of classes you could teach that would draw ten plus tables a session.
I'm listening.
April 18
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pattern recognition is certainly a large part.
Thanks
April 18
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Agreed. Most people can't express how they think. What they think about yes. How is a different story. With that said, how are we, as a community, supposed to teach play?
April 18
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