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That's a different thing, what teams agree do in the privacy of their own match…
Jan. 10
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But since weak is currently undefined and means different things to different people they might as well have described it as khaki.
Jan. 10
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There's actually zero evidence of anything in the OP apart from south's hand valuation being different to that of east and the TD, and that's all subjective.
Jan. 10
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If holding AQx?
Jan. 10
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Actually Andreas, my club is thriving. We've just invested £52,000 in a lift and refurbishing the bathrooms.
Jan. 10
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Bidding on says “I have an account at the bar”.
Jan. 10
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The context being that I don't have a login?


Context is important but remember that the person valuing your hand can't actually see it!

However, the purpose here is to help describe your agreements, so for example a hand that would raise 1 to 3 in competition would be ‘fairly weak’ with 6 clubs.

My wide ranging 1 opener would be moderate or strong, forcing with no better bid, might only have one club.


I'm hoping to introduce some consistency in the way people describe hands so that rulings become less subjective. I'd be amazed if I am anywhere near cracking it, but I am least trying to start a conversation.
Jan. 10
Ian Grant edited this comment Jan. 10
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Because your first hand is only strong if spades are trumps, the opps are likely to pick a different suit. I'm measuring defensive strength.
Jan. 10
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…and for those rare occasions when partner has K9xx and dummy Jx.
Jan. 10
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All I have to assume is that the director isn't infallible.
Jan. 9
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Surè, just give me AQJ AKQxxxx AKx -

Also if your partner describes your hand as ‘strong’ then I will have a good case for redress if it keeps us out of the bidding unfairly.

You are conflating offensive capability and strength.
Jan. 9
Ian Grant edited this comment Jan. 10
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I also lead the 8 from J864 but would try to pick another suit.
Jan. 9
Ian Grant edited this comment Jan. 9
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Paul: my bowl of chilli was intended to contain all 4 hands.
The LTC calculation already takes care of the controls.

Avon: you are in 4th seat the auction is 3-p-6, how do you value your hand now. In conjunction with your partner you will be able to make anywhere between 5 (say) and 13 tricks. Give the opps the boss suit and now its 0 and 13.

However, you misunderstand the purpose of my scale, which is to give the opposition an indication of the defensive strength if your hand; they can glean the offensive strength from the bidding.

This keeps you out of trouble if you open 2 with your hand as your partner shouldn't describe it as ‘very strong’, a description the ops could rightly claim kept them out of the bidding and miss a cold slam.
Jan. 9
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Alternatively we could simply be the ones who can overcome the cognitive bias imparted by the way the problem was presented and actually look at the issue objectively.

The key issue for me was having seen the bidding and heard the description of ‘weak’ was I surprised by the contents of dummy. The answer was no.
Jan. 9
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I would be insulted by the offer and suspicious of the ethics of the player making the offer. Hereafter they would be lodged in the ‘dodgy’ bin.
Jan. 9
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The prior sentence simply serves to predispose the BW audience to convict.

If I could somehow convince the audience that North was actually Boye Brogeland then I would expect a dramatic shift in the poll results.

Context is everything.
Jan. 9
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A chilli has a strength on the Scoville scale regardless of the dish it is cooked in.

Using a combination of the announcement made and the bidding it would be possible to get a fairly accurate picture of the hand.
For example: ‘Fairly Weak’ and ‘bidding to the level of fit’ looks to be as good a description of THAT south hand as you are going to get before its displayed.
Jan. 9
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I would expect a pair whose agreement is one of the wider ranges to have some method of determining where in the spectrum an actual hand is.
Jan. 9
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Losers are a measure of playing strength, controls are a measure of defensive strength.
If you are contemplating making an overcall which would you want to know?

FWIW we teach our beginners Losing Trick Count before they even know what a bid is!
Jan. 9
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Balanced 12-14.


A hand too weak to open at the one level would be ‘weak’.
A hand too weak to respond would be ‘very weak’.

You can get your head round this if you try hard enough.
Jan. 9
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