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3♦ seems obvious not because I don't feel it's a bit overweight but because I don't want to spend the remainder of the bidding with discouraging partner from clubs (after I have bid 3♣). I hope he's not going to hesitate before bidding 3NT because I'm intending to bid 4♥ the next round.
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I would not include 5-6 in 2♠. You may need the 4th round 3♠ bid for something else, e.g. a control bid for hearts. Bid an immediate 3♠ over 2om with 5-6.
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We have a clear rule in this situation: - 2♠ shows a balanced hand with 2 diamonds and denies a ♥ stopper - 2NT is balanced with stopper, 2 diamonds - 3♦ shows 3 diamonds without shortness - 3♥ is a splinter with 3 diamonds So we have an obligatory 2♠ bid here.
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There is rule which I have learned from a Tom Townsend article on doubles and I think is a good one: If they reopen, double is for penalties. Exception: 1x-p-p-something.
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I wonder if you play an obligatory raise of 1♥ to 2♥ with 4-card support. If you do, and doubler practically never passes the double, then the double won't accomplish anything. You can bid 2♠ with a 3-carder, bid 2♥ with 5, and 3♣ with 4.
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The only way to distinguish between an RKC in hearts and a natural NT is to start with a double with the latter. Yes, the double implies spades but after opener's 4♥ that is irrelevant. For me the only question is what 4NT would mean if opener bid 4♠ over the double.
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There is reason to rebid 2♣ even on a doubleton, e.g. with 2452 distribution. Partner will have either 5 clubs or 3 diamonds, the latter correcting to 2♦. And in competition he is not going to get excited having 5 clubs when he has already shown 4 with his 1NT bid. And if the opponents know that you may be in a 7-card fit reopening will look less attractive to them.
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Let's see. Can't be Blackwood for hearts because we had the opportunity for that bid one round earlier (4♥ could be a least-of-evils choice, not a desire to play there). Can't be natural, we would have doubled first. What remains are the regular BW and the KC ask in spades. As a key card in spades must be useful in all possible contracts, KC in spades it is. Which means there is no regular BW in this situation.
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Once I opened 2♥ 4th in hand with opening strength. The opponents reopened with a double and overbid us on the 3 level (not even in spades), making. Not sure they would have reopened after 1♥-1x-2H. Unfortunately I don't remember the hands.
My gut feeling is that it makes no sense to preempt at the 2 level in 4th chair, maybe excepting spades. I'd play something else, e.g. 2♦ balanced and 2♥ Flannery.
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In this situation opener bids what he wants to play. With 4-card ♥ he will bid 3♥ or 4♥, with 3♥ he will pass or bid 3m. So it is 3♣ for me.
The only problem I see is how opener is ever able to determine that pass is the right choice. When he has only 3 hearts he had bid 2♥ because he had distribution and he can't have 3433 after opening 1♦.
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There is no need to ask if opener has 5 or 6. He'll tell you anyway. While we're at it, I think a useful way of follow-up is to swap the meaning of opener's 3♣ and 3M, the former showing 6M the latter showing a club bid. Now you can agree M at the 3 level while to agree clubs you would have to go to the 4 level anyway.
Gábor Szőts
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I hope he's not going to hesitate before bidding 3NT because I'm intending to bid 4♥ the next round.
Gábor Szőts
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Over 1m-1♥-1♠-2om (GF) we play:
- 2♥: 3 hearts, balanced
- 2♠: 2 hearts, balanced, no stopper
- 2NT: 2 hearts, balanced with stopper
- 3om: natural, 4 cards (3-suiter)
- 3♥: 3 hearts, short om (5431 or 6430)
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- 2♠ shows a balanced hand with 2 diamonds and denies a ♥ stopper
- 2NT is balanced with stopper, 2 diamonds
- 3♦ shows 3 diamonds without shortness
- 3♥ is a splinter with 3 diamonds
So we have an obligatory 2♠ bid here.
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If they reopen, double is for penalties. Exception: 1x-p-p-something.
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And my proposed solution does just as well as the double if the first doubler never sits.
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If you do, and doubler practically never passes the double, then the double won't accomplish anything. You can bid 2♠ with a 3-carder, bid 2♥ with 5, and 3♣ with 4.
Gábor Szőts
Gábor Szőts
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Yes, the double implies spades but after opener's 4♥ that is irrelevant.
For me the only question is what 4NT would mean if opener bid 4♠ over the double.
Gábor Szőts
Gábor Szőts
And if the opponents know that you may be in a 7-card fit reopening will look less attractive to them.
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Gábor Szőts
Gábor Szőts
Gábor Szőts
Not sure they would have reopened after 1♥-1x-2H. Unfortunately I don't remember the hands.
My gut feeling is that it makes no sense to preempt at the 2 level in 4th chair, maybe excepting spades. I'd play something else, e.g. 2♦ balanced and 2♥ Flannery.
Gábor Szőts
Gábor Szőts
The only problem I see is how opener is ever able to determine that pass is the right choice. When he has only 3 hearts he had bid 2♥ because he had distribution and he can't have 3433 after opening 1♦.
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While we're at it, I think a useful way of follow-up is to swap the meaning of opener's 3♣ and 3M, the former showing 6M the latter showing a club bid. Now you can agree M at the 3 level while to agree clubs you would have to go to the 4 level anyway.