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Then what do you bid with a 5=3-32 minimum? 2 lets responder pass with 5 hearts and no game interest
April 21
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My initial assumption was 3 natural forcing………but this partner is quick on the trigger with a slam try, so I wasn't SURE if he wasn't making a slam try in clubs. Afraid to “cue bid” spades, I tried to show a minimum with 4 (but I should have bid 3N in retrospect). 4N was a mystery…Natural or key card in clubs. Again, the double cue bid would have removed any doubt about 3H.
April 21
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However, I came up with a fix for this style: cue bid twice with a strong fit; cue bid then raise is invitational; cue bid then new suit is a natural game force. I wish I had thought of that before!
Ps: Using the amended scheme above, a 3H jump can still show a fit jump (very descriptive).
April 21
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We had no agreement that cue then 3 was a suit
April 21
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If 3M is the weakest call, then the pass could be used to show a maximum minimum (invitational opposite a maximum) and keep partner from bidding game with extra strength over the 3M signoff.
Oct. 12, 2018
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yes
Oct. 11, 2018
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In this hypercompetitive environment I think it is more important to show a hand that has some values willing to compete to the 3 level versus the 3 preemptive raise. Now opener will be better placed to bid on or double. The defensive hands without a fit can double after they find their fit.

I know this is not mainstream, but maybe it should be. I held such a hand and was frozen out of the auction.
Oct. 11, 2018
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If you play equal level conversion, the cheapest new suit bid would be a scramble (here 2) and other bids are GOSH. To show a GOSH in the cheapest suit you must jump (if your suit here was spades you would have to jump to 3S, the downside of equal level conversion).
Oct. 10, 2018
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I open 1m with both (7 losers, 2 quick tricks, rebid, lead director, major suit support with a singleton). So what's not to like!?
Oct. 10, 2018
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I play a different form of Drury by a passed hand. 2 show 4+ trumps and ANY strength. 2 shows a limit raise with 3 trumps and 2M shows a single raise with only 3 trumps. If opener has no game interest opposite any limit raise, he closes out at 2M. If interested in game opposite an invitational raise with 4 trumps (2), he asks for opener's strength with 2. If responder is minimum, he rebids 2M. With a better hand, responder bids something else (you can show a flat hand as well as a long/short suit game try depending on how complicated you want to get).
This not only makes it easier to open a 4 card major, but to stay low opposite a minimum opening.
Oct. 10, 2018
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We play 3C as the weaker Bergen raise and 3D invitational. If you want to add a stronger meaning to 3C that could work well. Opener usually asks for max/min with 3D. AS long as you stipulate that the cheapest non raise shows the “maximum minimum” and any other bid shows the strong hand (void, cue or whatever you want).
Oct. 10, 2018
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Using Larry's example auction but playing Lipensohl, partner would also bid 3D as a transfer with an invitational or stronger hand while denying a spade stop. With a minimum, opener would bid 3H. Responder would pass with a minimum, but with a stronger hand, he could rebid 3S to show a semi stop (remenber he has denied a full spade stopper) or 3N to show the extra values while denying even a semi stop.

Though nothing is perfect, this scheme lets you get to the right contract more often than not, and not only with extreme hands.
Oct. 27, 2017
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Regarding stoppers, it is true that you can find stoppers later with a 3S ask. However, what do you do over a 2H overcall after a 3H transfer and partner bids 3S. There is no room for a stopper ask. Lipensohl starts with an over transfer to 3N showing game values, 5 spades and a stopper all in one bid!
Oct. 5, 2017
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some play a double is penalty. If played as negative, the double would work
Oct. 5, 2017
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Steve, If a Rubensohl transfer shows invitational or better strength, how do you show a competitive only hand?
Oct. 5, 2017
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Sorry Monty, I read your post as Lebensohl, not Rubensohl. When I devised Lipensohl, it was to correct problems with Lebensohl and Rubensohl. With Rub, the major transfers have too wide a range and can be further preempted. LIp uses transfers like rub, but with a higher lower limit. All transfers show a minimum of invitational strength. Opener now accepts the transfer with any minimum or bids the full value of his hand with extras. This left the question of stoppers and whether 3N was playable or not. This was addressed with the concept of the “over” transfer to show a stop and the standard or “under” transfer to deny a stopper.
With a weak heart hand, responder starts with 2N, a force to 3C, and then transfers to hearts with 3D.
Minor suit transfers are still wide ranging.
Oct. 1, 2017
Frank Lipniski edited this comment Oct. 1, 2017
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The problem is simple. 3D is a game force and does not show hearts! The way to show a game force with hearts is to bid 3H. Now you declare 4H and the lead comes through partner's possible Kx. Using Lip, 3D is a transfer and shows a 5 card suit and invitational or better values but denies a stop. With a maximum and only 2 hearts, opener can bid 3S with a semi-stop, 3N with a full stop or 4H with no stop to try for a 5-2 game. If opener shows a minimum by accepting the transfer, responder can pass with a minimum, bid 3S with a semi-stop or 3N with no stop. If responder holds a game going hand with 5 hearts and a spade stop, he bids an immediate 3S (an “over” transfer to hearts). Now opener can play 3N, declare 4H or bid 4D to transfer and let responder declare.
Oct. 1, 2017
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My point was not that partner forget leb, but that leb put me in a position where I had to be creative or risk the hand possibly being played from the wrong side. That was the genesis of Lip in the first place. To keep out of bad 3N contracts and to right-side the contract whenever possible. The fact that partner forgot Leb (yes it was a fluke) was just icing on the cake.
Sept. 30, 2017
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Not true. With a 5 card major, game values and a stopper, you bid an over transfer. Without a stopper, Lip says to transfer and then bid 3N (showing game strength but denying a stopper) if partner accepts the transfer With a 6+ card suit, you can use Texas transfers and have opener declare or bid 3 of the major (usually showing only a 4 card suit and a stopper) and then correct 3N to 4 of the major to declare with a 6+ carder.

Using leb, responder can't offer a game choice without declaring. With lip, either partner can declare in the major as needed.
Sept. 30, 2017
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In my partnership, a vulnerable minor preempt to the 3 level shows a good suit and a willingness to play 3N. The 2nd reason for 3 was to make it harder to find a 44+ spade fit. A simple 2 bid lets lho double (or if playing negative free bids) or bid 2S with marginal values and find their fit. Over 3 lho needs a good hand to show spades (another reason to bid again, imho)
Feb. 5, 2017
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