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I think the main thing is you and Annie need to talk about your carding and consider playing more SP. On both of these hands and another one you posted recently, having good SP agreements helps a lot in the defense. On board 1, she should play 6 and then 8. One of the advantages of playing rusinow the ability to switch to SP on likely singleton or doubleton ace leads.

On board 2, it's clear to play K of spades then Q then J then give you a ruff. She knows she's always about to get in to continue spades so she can make it extra clear. If for some reason it was less clear, then playing KQ of spades would suggest a heart and QK would suggest a club. If the situation was what you thought and she suggested a club, you can play the A of diamonds and a diamond as you did in order to get her the club at the end.
June 14
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It's not the slightest bit unethical. This isn't even close to the tiniest bit unethical.

Now if you had a history of doing this and partner bid 4 even with 3 card heart support, then we'd be in a totally different realm.
June 14
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Corrected in the other thread, and Jan is aware of correct times, but start times for Sieg vs Fox are listed EDT when those times are PDT. So to clarify:

Saturday: 5PM PDT 8PM EDT
Sunday: 4:30 PM PDT 7:30 PM EDT
Sunday #2: 7PM PDT 10PM EDT
Wednesday: waiting confirmation from Fox team
June 13
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To clarify times, the 5PM Saturday and 4:30/7 PM Sunday times are PDT. So eastern, that's 8PM and 7:30/10
June 13
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Messed up in what way? Tom isn't involved in this fantasy bracket idea, just me.
June 12
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C3. If it was wrong, then blame the useless count card when SP is far more useful here. Also, if declarer really is 2524 or similar, then partner probably should have bid their 7 card suit white at some point.
June 11
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Cue lots of people having strong opinions, confident that they are right and anyone who disagrees is insane/irresponsible (one side) or over controlling/not letting people make their own decisions (other side)

Also probably some references to lawsuits, even though they are incredibly unlikely to succeed and the tournament holders will probably be immune to lawsuits by the time the event takes place given current political priorities.
June 11
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Hi Chris,

Agree with your suggestion that online intro lessons are a great idea for clubs and other organizations (including potentially units) to explore.

However, you have seemed very bitter in past posts about the 11% of membership fees that units receive. Just wanted to point out that Seattle is one unit that in my opinion, and (from what I understand) the opinion of most and perhaps all of the club owners in the area that “does it right”.

Of those membership funds, everything goes back to the unit members in some fashion. Tournaments are run at a profit to add more money to add to what can be done for the unit members and community. No money is paid out in stipends, moratoriums, or whatever else some people have griped about in other threads. Even the Christmas party is at a unit member's house or at a club (donated by a club owner) with unit board members bringing the food and inviting many people who help bridge in the area including club owners to come for free.

The biggest expense by far is the unit newsletter, which is printed every two months and mailed out to many members who are not comfortable with the electronic version. In better times, extra copies were made and delivered to clubs by unit board members so people could pick it up there. After that, many expenses are usually education related - typically focused on juniors. Some might argue that juniors are a bad investment, but others might consider such thoughts to be a shortsighted view.

Some of that money is spent on donations to https://www.seattlenextgenbridge.com/ , with donations typically matched by the district. Ann, in particular, has spent countless hours related to NextGenBridge including the summer classes for Seattle area kids who want to learn and helping get teachers in to 50-60ish(?) schools in the area. Many on the unit board are bridge teachers, one is a club owner, and almost everyone puts in a ton of hours for the sole purpose of making bridge in the Seattle area a better experience for its members.

Anyway, sort of a long response, but just wanted to highlight that the Seattle unit board (of which, I am not a member) puts in a ton of hours and effort in order to make bridge better. They keep $0 of that 11% for themselves. I feel pretty lucky to live in this area with its great clubs and bridge players and unit board members, and feel I owe it to those board members when criticisms of how other units do business creeps into discussions related to the Seattle unit.
June 10
Eric Sieg edited this comment June 10
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I don't think it's an “objection”, I just think of it as highlighting factors that a lot of others seem to be glossing over.

As someone who plays 95% and occasionally kibitzes, I would be a lot less likely to ever kibitz or watch bridge hands if this approach is taken.

A few factors that matter to me and likely some others, but certainly not everyone:

1) A delay matters. Part of the appeal is feeling like we are watching the event as it unfolds. People who say how can you tell ignore (imo) that it DOES make a psychological difference.
2) I typically kibitz from BBO because I'm about to play and got on a bit early, or a match just ended so I'll go watch for a bit. Or maybe I'm taking a 20 minute break from work and want to see what's going on in BBO, notice vugraph, and watch for a little. Also, if I notice 10 friends on BBO all watching the same match I might wander over for a bit to see what all the fuss is about. Kibitzing is something that happens organically because I'm already on BBO, I'm not going to go turn on twitch or youtube or something to watch bridge.
3) On BBO I can switch tables as much as I want when things slow down. Click on bids to catch up with what I missed. Etc. Youtube cannot be as interactive or as flexible.

This are just my reservations. Unless the experience is significantly improved as part of moving over to youtube, I would probably never bother to kibitz the matches that receive this treatment. I would imagine that others might feel the same way, and they shouldn't just be dismissed as nonsense concerns. However, I also think that the benefits are probably worth it - especially for bigger matches. I would certainly be interested in exploring a delay in the SF and Finals of our GNT matches.

There's also potential for this to be way better. Maybe we'll see more good voice commentating, a higher production, other things still not known yet. That would all be great. One of my great memories early in bridge was Zia wandering in and commentating the Vanderbilt final. Also, this might be more accessible to people who have mild interest in bridge but not to the point of creating a BBO account and logging into BBO regularly.

So anyway, sort of a long comment but I don't think any conversation should just assume that an idea is 100% win with no downside. I think this is a great idea, but I also think it has downsides and it's likely that I will spectate bridge less frequently as a result.
June 9
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Youtube > twitch, not just for account purposes for commenting but also because its easier for a larger segment of the population to easily put it up on a TV.
June 9
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Strong preference for youtube. 99% of TVs can show youtube easily, but twitch is less easy to watch on a TV for many. I realize its not hard to cast etc, but if the goal is a good spectating experience, making it as easy as possible to throw it up on the TV seems like a good thing.
June 9
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Did you miss all the posts above where people said this isn't remotely a hack? This has nothing to do with Jan, or Jan's computer, and Chip would have nothing to do with any of this.

You can create a random email and type in whatever name you want in the from field. I could create a new email account Eric123456678@gmail.com, but put “Jan Martel” as my name and send people to Jan.

This is the most basic phishing there is and BW should probably delete this so others aren't confused that this has anything to do with Jan whatsoever and people should treat emails from Jan Martel the same as from any other user.
June 9
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As a random player who sometimes watches, I confess I would be a lot less likely to watch on youtube than on BBO. Part of the appeal imo is being on BBO, bouncing between tables when action gets slow, talking to friends who are also watching or doing other things, etc. While some might enjoy spectating in this manner, I probably wouldn't.

I think it's totally fine if this decision is made and I will not be in the slightest bothered by it. Losing a bit of spectating is hardly a big deal, and the security improvements are likely worth it, especially for more prestigious events. It would be great to have something like this available for District GNTs for example. I just feel like everyone is so busy talking about what a great idea it is, that no one is mentioning the downside.

Good idea? Sure. But it will (imo) result in fewer spectators. Whether the drop is small or large is hard to know in advance.
June 8
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Meh, heart lead wasn't a big deal. It helped cut off transportation to the club suit. The weird part was the spade switch. Apparently EW either don't have carding agreements on the order of the diamond discards or E wasn't paying attention or W forgot them. Whatever the reason, the spade switch was the critical error. If you really don't have any sort of SP/smith/etc agreements on what those 3 diamond discards are, then heaven help your defense and good luck avoiding absurd disasters like this in the future.
June 8
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This sounds like your typical from field spoofing rather than any actual hacking of Jan's emails. Nick already summed up what's likely going on. I occasionally get spoofs of this sort and just ignore or delete them.
June 7
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Huh? There are a lot more than 2 matches left in the series. It's a double elim event. The bracketing software sucks for double elim, but there are many matches still remaining.

Also, not sure what conceivable reason there could be to switch away from BBO as a platform, especially as they were just so aggressive about helping disqualify someone from the event.
June 6
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If your heart was beating that bad over a simple double, imagine it would have been through the roof if he'd XX'd :)
June 6
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Tom: Don't count the losers bracket out yet! We could still see someone come back to win the whole event :)
June 5
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Comparing cheating in these events to cheating with 3 friends in a private game seems to completely misunderstand these events, the level of participation, and the seriousness taken by many participants. The team games organized by Tom and co. have become the primary (and frequently, only) serious bridge competition available to many with the cancellation of Nationals and all F2F bridge tournaments. There are many high quality teams, sponsored teams, teams with players who play for their national team, etc. I would consider the initial quality higher than a bracket 1 KO, which obviously only gets higher into the later rounds.

A variety of matches have been broadcast on vugraph, and even those that haven't have had high levels of kibitzer participation. I'm a virtual unknown and certainly not on the level of many participants but have still frequently noticed 30+ kibitzers watching various matches.

The June KO is still accepting entries, but despite awarding no masterpoints or other reward, it looks to have around 600 participants spread out into roughly 100 different teams. I recognize names on probably half the teams, and would consider all but 2-3 to be “good” players, and consider many of those to be world class.

I guess this is a bit verbose, but just relegating these to “private events” not worthy of an announcement seems dismissive to events that, to many, are the only real serious bridge outlet at this time. I realize there are the Alt tournaments and the USBF had an invitational recently, but while the prestige of the players there might be higher, the participation rates are significantly lower.
June 5
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Would have been interesting to see if Justin would have gotten it right on 2 high hearts followed by diamond. Seems like this wins if partner has A, but primarily induces declarer to play (imo) for 2-2 spades since they can no longer afford to double hook.
June 3
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