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unlucky
3N has no play
P has something like AKQx, xxx, Axx, KQx. Heart ace offside, diamond king offside, no entry to dummy -1 or 2 lose 5 imps
c'est la vie
just another bbo fun hand :)
Nov. 3, 2017
Donald Lurie edited this comment Nov. 3, 2017
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fwiw: Qxx of s was offside 7 = -1
Question: why should 5N be pick a slam when your only potential losers on this hand and sequence rate to be in hearts, and will be the same regardless of final contract? Just curious :)
Oct. 1, 2017
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There apparently exists a convention called “AIO” or “As If Opened” where the partner of a 1 minor opener bids as if the opener had opened 1NT after rho makes a natural 1NT overcall as in the sequence 1 - 1NT - ? (2C = Stayman, 2 Red = transfer, etc). I found this on the web site “All the Conventions You Could Ever Want”. (I have only run into someone using this on one occasion.)
Hope this is helpful.
Sept. 20, 2017
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Rightly or not, I felt this hand was too good for a 2NT rebid: 9 controls, quality 5-card suit )3 of top 5 cards in suit- AKQ]. It seemed that if 3N is a more recommended initial rebid, it can always be bid after partner's response to 2H! (and we don't play puppet).

The reason for this poll was to see how many would rebid 3N over 3 after the interference, or of a different bid would be recommended. There was/ is disagreement regarding whether the 3NT bid was COG as opposed to Serious, especially after the interference 3 bid.
Given the 3 bid, it is tempting to anticipate that partner is short in s. However, on this particular hand, P had Txx
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I thank all responders for their input.
Aug. 19, 2017
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fwiw: I ran the hand thru the K&R hand evaluator. K&R yielded a valuation of 10.10
Aug. 6, 2017
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Tom. You'll get no argument from me r.e. xyz (or 2-Way Checkback). There are a few sequences that need agreement as the meanings might differ depending on whether playing xyz of 2way checkback.
July 22, 2017
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make it 15-17 with very good 14s or bad 18s
July 14, 2017
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Just as a follow-up: would it change your answer or recommendation if you knew that partner has been known to rebid 1N on 1435 and 1345 hands? (also on 1444 hands but not applicable here)
July 12, 2017
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Tom: I believe that you do know or have at least kibbed all four players involved with the OP at one time or another.

To Buddy: My partner would be more likely to open the KQJ7th hand with 4 White v Red. I'm no longer sure about whether he would open 3 2nd seat White v Red.

Spoiler alert: imo, the 4 bid was not crazy. It was only -1. The 4 bid didn't cost us the chance to use Keycard 4 because we don't yet play it.

So, what kind of hand are you playing the 3 bidder to have? Your hand has a lot of controls and potential tricks on offense.
May 17, 2017
Donald Lurie edited this comment May 17, 2017
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The book “2/1 Game Force: A Modern Approach 5th Edition”, by Neil H Timm, PhD has a chapter on Meck Lite by Luke Gillespie and Jim Streisand. Their responses included 1 as any 8-11 except s, 1NT as 12+ with 5+ s, and 2m responses as 12+ & 5+m. They use original Precision responses by passed hands. I believe that one can actually download this book from Dr Timm's website, but click on “bridge news”, not book/amazon discounts to get the download.
May 2, 2017
Donald Lurie edited this comment May 2, 2017
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as much fun as it might be to have 2 Queens of Hearts in one hand, I corrected partner's hand, waving my magic wand and turning the Queen into a King..
March 31, 2017
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passing lost a few IMPs (I don't recall exactly how many) and would have given you a below-average match point score fwiw.
March 31, 2017
Donald Lurie edited this comment March 31, 2017
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not only did 4 make, you don't get to play there. It goes 5 on your left and P likely bids 5 , maybe 6, on something like Ax, Kxxxx, void, QTxxxx.
I passed, lose 10.5 IMPS
fwiw, the 4 hand was xxxx, x , AKQ8th, void and west was KJTxx, x, 9xx, AJxx
maybe pass IS a dirty word
March 31, 2017
Donald Lurie edited this comment March 31, 2017
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I would appreciate it if some of you who dbl'd 2 would explain how you play this bid. I can think of at least 3 possible interpretations. Would also like to know how the 2NT bidders play this?
March 15, 2017
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Yes, it is.
As of about 4:00 pm eastern USA time (Sunday), 76% of respondents elected to respond 2 with the companion hand to an opening bid of 1 with this hand. The others mostly recommended a response of 1NT-forcing.
After a raise to 3 by this hand, 43% recommended a rebid of 3, 13% recommended a rebid of 3, and 24% recommended a rebid of 3NT with the companion (responder's) hand.
It seems that most roads were leading to a 3NT contract that was -1 on a diamond lead (unless people weren't passing 3NT with this hand). Sure enough, I received a diamond lead.
I am trying to figure out a way to avoid the 3NT contract. Perhaps the initial response of 2 is ill-advised. (What is your rebid with the companion/ responder's hand after 1 - 1NT f-1 - 2? Is there a better bid than 3/ 2 by opener?
How to avoid the hopeless 3NT contract?
So, if anyone has recommendations for avoiding 3NT on these hands, including rebid structures after 1-2, and 1 - 2 - 3, i would appreciate it if you would provide them.
Many thanks to who have responded to these polls.
March 12, 2017
Donald Lurie edited this comment March 12, 2017
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I posted this bidding problem for a couple of reasons (at least).
1) seeing as it is in front of the 1 opener, is 2 in this sequence Michaels?
2) The offensive-defensive ration of this hand seems to be more toward the offensive side.
Assuming the answer to question #1 is yes, what, if anything, is the difference between Dbl and 2? Since both supposedly show majors, is one bid showing a better hand than the other and/ or suggesting less than 5-5 distribution in the majors? Is this hand good enough to overcall 1 and then rebid 2?
Obvious the opinions on these issues are mixed.
I thank you all for responding to the poll.
March 11, 2017
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I would appreciate it if one of you who selected a 3 rebid explained this selection further.
Thank you.
Feb. 20, 2017
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Actually, one hopeful consequence of the suggested modification was to make 1 a bit less nebulous. Partnerships would just have to decide what bids mean if the opps immediately overcall the 2 opener before you're able to identify the shortness: ie, what do various doubles mean in comp by responder as well as by opener.
Feb. 8, 2017
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My first exposure to the Precision Bidding System was the first version or edition system book back in 1969 or 1970. Assuming that my memory isn't too far gone, (a risky assumption to make) it is my recollection that, in the initial version/ edition, hands with 5 s and 4 s were also opened 2. Minimum hands with 4-5 in the minors were shown by rebidding 2NT in response to the 2 asking bid by responder, and maximum hands with 4-5 in the minors were shown by rebidding 3 Reportedly, there were problems with the 2NT rebid in terms of sometimes wrong-siding some NT contracts and a better use for the 2NT rebid was being considered by some. The 2 - 2 - 2NT sequence to show a minimum 4-5 in the minor was not adopted in the 3rd edition nor in the Match Point Precision system. (never saw the 2nd edition).
Feb. 8, 2017
Donald Lurie edited this comment Feb. 8, 2017
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Interesting.
I am wondering if anyone ever considered playing the 2 opener as 3-suited with either short s or short s with a 2 response being the initial asking bid (2 would show short ). I can't recall having had a hand where I had a natural 2 response in a long time if at all, so I wonder how much of a loss having 2 ask for the shortness would be. If anyone considered this, i would appreciate knowing why you either adopted or rejected this modification.
imo, this modification of the 2 opener would simplify the rebid structure after 1 - 2 as well as taking the 1435, 1444, and, should you so chose, the 1345 distribution hands out of the 1 opener. I haven't been able to try this out in actual competition yet, so it's just something on my chalkboard.
Comments would be appreciated. Thx
DHL
Feb. 7, 2017
Donald Lurie edited this comment Feb. 8, 2017
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