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Thx. canape and I were tried but somehow never found a comfort level. :(
Thx for your responding to this
March 29, 2018
Donald Lurie edited this comment March 30, 2018
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I tried to figure out something very similar to what you suggested but had difficulties with responses and rebids, especially with handling and differentiating 4M-6m hands and minor 2-suited hands. It became more convoluted, and I got a headache, when I started to include possible interference from competitive bidding.
So, if you can, might you provide some additional information regarding responses- rebids, and competitive bidding if one adopts what you just recommended. It would be very appreciated.
TIA
March 29, 2018
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At IMPS, no. But at match points, as you know being the correct part-score contract is very important. So is being able to stop in 2M after a 2 opener.
appreciate your responding
March 29, 2018
Donald Lurie edited this comment March 30, 2018
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If N/S make 9 tricks in s and E/W make 10 in s.
Then isn't the result obtained par, and equity restored?
Why should marijuana be legalized? Why Not?
March 29, 2018
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I cut my teeth on K-S, Schenken, and then the earliest version of Precision, so I have played wk NT since my teens.
The 2 bid is an integral component of a homegrown system that is actually very natural, with somewhat sounder openings than currently seems to be the norm. The system actually permits a 1m opener to usually show 5+ or else 17+ (12'a are opened only if 4441 or 5+ card suit.) The system preceded modern 2/1 and modern improvements in Precision, and is not really helpful for more knowledgeable/ expert players. It worked rather well in Match Points for us: it fit our comfort levels better than 2/1. Many asserted that the 13-16 NT range was unplayable, but it worked fine for us.
March 28, 2018
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interesting. I never heard of Bobby Nails Diamond system until right now, so I did not plagiarize his convention.
March 28, 2018
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Thx, Patrick
March 28, 2018
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Thx, steve.
March 28, 2018
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After about 28 or so votes, the results are pretty much what I expected (67% for 2, several for 2).
I posted this hand because I was interested in hearing your reasons for selecting your calls( as well as for answers to the other questions asked.)
At the table, I chose 2 but not without thought (not of bidding 2 or passing, but of bidding 3 or a transfer to 3). My partner expressed his disagreement with the 2 bid and felt that the advisable bid is 3 in order to interfere with the opponents' ability to find their fit. In retrospect, I agree with him: They not only found the fit, but we also managed to push them into a game that they might not have otherwise bid. Lose 5 IMPs, plus or minus. The penalty for not bidding without a purpose.
So, thx for your time responding to this poll and please keep the votes and comments coming in. Do you agree that taking the risk of bidding 3 in order to shut out s is a valid agreement or just results?
March 28, 2018
Donald Lurie edited this comment March 28, 2018
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She gets my vote.
March 28, 2018
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just curious:
what is your plan if the bidding goes X - 2N (leb) - 3C - 3D? If you bid 3H, may partner pass 3H? Maybe this is a good plan, IDK
I guess ripping up your cards, throwing them on the floor and then claiming that they broke won't be helpful.
Is there really a correct answer for such a hand?
March 27, 2018
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I am going to let the cat out of the bag on this one.

I can't be sure, but I suspect that the North hand was placed in a situation that many others might not have been in due to West's choice of opening bid (which may not have been the more common selection). The issue is not whether or not you agree with the 4 opener. It's what, if anything, to do now that West opened 4
(Gone is the chance for a preemptive 4 bid.)

Here is the full hand: Remember, E/W not vul, N/S vul, West is dealer.
West: void, A87643, K6, QT987
East: void, K95, AJ98, AK6432
(South: AQJ7, QJT, Q753, J5)
all spot cards are accurate.

Would E/W have bid to an unlucky grand had North Passed 4? No idea. Had they done so, it was the only way you would have had a chance for a plus score on this particular hand.
Did 4 help or hinder your chances on this hand? Was it a reasonable bid or a unilateral bid that precluded any further rational or informed bidding, especially by partner? Don't know. That's one reason why I posted this hand. Yes, I did bid 4 at the table and felt like it was total insanity. I am still not sure.

However, passing 6X was definitely not a winner. If one was going to do pull the double, then perhaps one should have assumed that you had no Spade trick on defense, no spade loser on offense, that 6 was going to be -800, a save versus 6 or 6 (-920 or - 980), and just bid 6 over 6 to start with.

Please don't get into a thing regarding why East didn't convert the contract back to s after West's 4 opener.

Is there a correct or even percentage bid with the North hand? Don't know, not an expert. It would have been nice if more people would have explained their reasons for either passing 4 or bidding 4 on the initial poll. Isn't Bridge fun? Sure wouldn't want to have this hand come up in a short Swiss Teams match where you don't have time to make up a wrong decision on such a swinging board.
Thx all, DHL
Feb. 23, 2018
Donald Lurie edited this comment Feb. 23, 2018
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no. I did not play. Just watched this and was surprised when the south player decided to try to “walk the dog” by passing 1 (vs bidding 5) and had the dog mistake him for a fire hydrant.
Feb. 22, 2018
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re :Reese. Was it at end of book “Develop Your Bidding Judgment”? I seem to recall the hand. Didn't he recommend a 4 bid with that?
Feb. 22, 2018
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I do have a Gryffindor robe and scarf (and Elder Wand), and i was taught early on that “rules were made to be broken”.
So I guess that means I can bid 4?
Feb. 22, 2018
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I “know” that what i will be torn to shreds for what I'm about to suggest, but i shall this one time, go out on the limb. Please don't judge me too harshly. I am writing this at 3:46 am.

As partner to the 4 bidder, I suspect that one would want to find out about keycards. The problem is that those mean old opponents took away both 4 (kickback) and 4NT asking bid away from you by bidding 4NT themselves to show minors.

Why let them muck up your plan, your methods? Since it's a question of 6 or 7, why not use the next available step, in this case 5 as your keycard ask. Sort of like Keycard 4, just 1 level higher.
And if lho doubles or bids, just use whatever counters you would use if the opps interfered over 4NT (ie DOPI, D1PO, etc, etc.
What do you lose by doing this? What would 5 by you normally mean? If they take a premature high level sac, well that was probably coming regardless
I'm not sure what if any better uses there might be for a 5 on such an auction.

thx
DHL
Feb. 8, 2018
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When it isn't until other people inform you after the session that you become aware that two streakers had run through the playing area midway during the session.
Or maybe it just means that your eyes are going bad………
Feb. 4, 2018
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I have always thought along similar lines, that pass implied a balanced hand with 0 or sometimes only 1 spade stopper, and that double was for takeout. Always had mixed feelings about whether or not 2NT must show double stopper, especially if one has a source of many outside tricks.
Seeing that you wrote that pass suggests a balanced 22 - 23 raises a question on my mind about whether you feel this hand is too strong to Pass 2?

Pass showing a strong, balanced hand raises the question of whether or not partner may now proceed as if you had bid 2NT over 2, knowing spade stoppers is an issue? I.e. 3C Stayman (whatever version), transfers, etc?
The idea of 2NT by responder after a double by opener as being lebensohl is interesting. I must admit, however, that this is something we have never gotten to discussing. What would partner be expected to do with a weak hand with something like J8xx of s and out, flat hand?

In addition, I am not clear about whether or not double for takeout would promise 4 s if holding a doubleton ?

thx for your insight :)
Feb. 1, 2018
Donald Lurie edited this comment Feb. 1, 2018
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2 is the proverbial “waiting”. No 2 double-negative.
No control responses, No Kokish relays
basic 2/1 (whatever that means)
Feb. 1, 2018
Donald Lurie edited this comment Feb. 1, 2018
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Thank you. That is an interesting agreement/ treatment to have.
Not sure if my partners play that or not. (one answered that opener must bid 3N over 3x with a club stopper).
I will discuss it with them.
Jan. 30, 2018
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